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Wednesday, April 18, 2007

'Ebay Remotes' Getting Better?

Gadget Infinity, makers of the infamous $29.95 "Ebay Remotes" have reportedly redesigned them to sync with Canon flashes and work better all around with other flashes. The link takes you all the way to Hong Kong, so mind the jetlag.

Full disclosure: I have never personally tried them.

But if they keep aspiring to greatness like this, the PW's commanding lead might be in trouble. Or at least they might have to start selling for a cheaper price...


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42 Comments:

Blogger Chris said...

I ordered a set Tuesday to use with my 580EX and perhaps a sunpak if it works. :)

April 18, 2007 9:16 AM  
Blogger Jon said...

I'll admit i was skeptical at first when I saw such a cheap camera accessory, but I've had nothing but good results with mine. One of my receivers is slightly off, but all it takes is a wrap of tape to fix it, i'm going to modify them over the summer anyway to go into a bigger box to run off a couple of AAA cells, but for $30 you cant really complain even if they do play up. I'd love to get my hands on some of the second gen ones and see the internal differences.

In short: I love mine.

April 18, 2007 9:45 AM  
Blogger carpeicthus said...

PocketWizard has the advantage of branding, a name associated with stability, so they shouldn't be too worried. But I'm still taking an interested eye at this.

April 18, 2007 10:18 AM  
Anonymous Sean McCormack said...

Ordered. Thanks for the link.

April 18, 2007 10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When was this redesigned? I tried this about 3 months ago in early January and it did not work with my Pentax camera and flash. From what I remember, it only synced upto 1/40s or 1/60s. So, I returned it for a refund. Lost some money on shipping charges. Since then, got Microsync which is working fine.

I'd be interested to know if anyone has tried this latest version with Pentax camera and flashes. Thanks.
Gene

April 18, 2007 10:44 AM  
Blogger Jess said...

Or at least they might have to start start selling for a cheaper price...

:P

April 18, 2007 11:33 AM  
Blogger Cymen said...

Gene,

I'm using the $30 set from magic_trigger with my Pentax DL and it works without issue at 1/180s (max sync speed). You were in manual mode, right? Doesn't work with P-TTL.

Cymen

April 18, 2007 11:57 AM  
Blogger Ryan R. Dlugosz said...

Well, I put a fresh set of batteries in my eBay 4-channel remotes and even did the antenna mod on the transmitter. I was shooting in the studio with it and it worked more or less flawlessly. Oh, I also modded my 580EX to add a sync port which seems to have solved the random flashing problem caused by the hotshoe trigger.

Then, I went home that same night and was shooting some more, using two strobes and therefore two remotes. Worked fine for a while and then one stopped flashing. I'd move the remote away from the area it was in and it'd work fine. Then I switched the remotes and found that neither worked in that location... Somehow a radio void developed around that area of the room!

Annoyed, but not beaten, I pulled out an optical trigger that I've got in my kit. I was back up and running - the remaining remote flash triggered the other optically and I was back in action.

During this whole escapade I cussed a few times and said "this is why people spend money on actual PocketWizards and not this eBay crap!" My wife's reply was "well why don't you just get the PW's then?" :)

...I just said "I might"... I left out the bit about the $500. ;)

April 18, 2007 12:25 PM  
Blogger David said...

Fixed, fixed. Thanks, thanks.

April 18, 2007 12:31 PM  
Blogger lcamargo said...

Some people seem to have luck with them. I'm not sure if it's a matter of getting a good batch or if they work better with some equipment than other. But in may case, the 4-channel ones are completely unreliable and totally frustrating. I took the plunge and got PW and have live happily ever after :)

April 18, 2007 1:16 PM  
Blogger Anthony said...

I ordered a set a couple weeks ago and hooked it up to my 430ex and 285hv both with the ~$6 hotshoe adapters. I have only used them once but they worked well consistently. I'm very content with my purchase and glad I didn't shell out for the PW's.

April 18, 2007 2:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I picked up the ebay triggers about 6+ weeks to use with a canon 430ex. at first the flash fired non-stop like crazy. i switched the frequencies and it only fired every 5 seconds. still annoying. they worked perfectly with my sb-25 flashgun. i have the v2 set on order so hopefully i'll be able to use both flashes at the same time without misfires.

cheers,
matt

April 18, 2007 2:34 PM  
Blogger Papuass said...

I also ordered version 2. Will try out with my 430EX when I recieve them. They said 15 days delivery :/

April 18, 2007 3:03 PM  
Blogger Daniel Demidoff said...

I have a bunch of triggers and receivers and I'm quite happy with them. Some have been missing in action but overall I have spent less than 1/5 of the cost of a pair of PW...
I'll give PW a chance when they become more affordable...

April 18, 2007 4:03 PM  
Blogger Tibor said...

Doesn't synch too well with my Mamiya RB.

April 18, 2007 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess I'll jump in here and recommend my eBay vendor:

photogearok

I have purchased two sets of the 16 channel model, and both work well, within the limits of the antenna.

I've had times where they worked OK 40 feet away, but most often beyond 10-15 feet they stop responding.

I have begun the process of the antenna booster (funny how I've got every size of wire EXCEPT what will fit in those holes in the PCB) but haven't finished one yet.

Pete

April 18, 2007 4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, and did I say my triggers work fine with my Canon 580EX?

I thought I left that out...

Pete

April 18, 2007 4:32 PM  
Blogger efrudd said...

My concern isn't that the price of PW's start coming down, it's that the price of the eBay triggers start going UP before I have a chance to get a few sets.

Eric

April 18, 2007 5:08 PM  
Anonymous ed said...

The general sense I get is that the non-hotshoe triggers (which come in 4, 8 and 16 channel versions) are more reliable than the hotshoe ones (which seem to come only in 4 channel). I've got a non-hotshoe 4 channel set and haven't had a single issue with it.

April 18, 2007 8:32 PM  
Blogger Patrick Smith said...

reminds me of a baseball when I look at the image... lol.

April 18, 2007 9:04 PM  
Blogger Ross said...

I had these for 2 months and used them with nikon speedlights, they worked most of the time but I did have some annoying misfires, they also did not have great range, I like to do outdoor skate shots sometimes where I am far away from the flashes, I thought about modding them and putting the antenna on but I decided to just settle with a set of pocket wizards. I use flash at weddings sometimes and can't afford to have these things misfiring. Now I never have to worry about these misfires. These things are nice but eventually you will want pocketwizards for the ultimate reliability, skip these and go for pocket wizards if you can afford them. Transceivers are 150 each with a student discount.

April 18, 2007 9:13 PM  
Blogger SoulJah said...

So... These will work with Nikon gear right? I've had my eye on a couple of older SB-24s laying on the shelf. I wonder if they work alongside CLS?

April 18, 2007 10:15 PM  
Blogger But I'm a Bear! said...

Thanks to Strobist.com the photo lab I currently work at will start carrying the Starving Student Lighting Kits, including Pocket Wizards and soon the Elinchrom Skyports.

April 18, 2007 10:42 PM  
Blogger fogg said...

ross, did you say student discount....how....

April 19, 2007 2:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know if you can order one trigger and multiple receivers?
Or do you have to order many "1 trigger and 1 receiver" packages to get multiple receivers?

April 19, 2007 3:21 AM  
Anonymous whatever said...

and once they've reached v4 (no downward compatibility; surprise!) to work reliable in all aspects, most up-graders have paid the same price as brand items first hand. ... and produced a lot of electronic junk from questionable (environmental) companies.

April 19, 2007 5:26 AM  
Blogger traer said...

i have a set of these, sometimes they flash randomly. but that hasn't happened in a while - i now use 3 recievers and the transmitter with great results, that's with 3 months use so far.

April 19, 2007 8:08 AM  
Blogger David said...

I have the yhdc-b types. They work great from a distance and I love them. The connections are cheap and you have to work to get them right, but I have used them to trip remotes and fire flashes from 50' away. The real trick is you have to have fresh alkaline AAs, rechargeable batteries don't work and after you've shot for a bit you need replace the batteries. I use fresh batteries for every shoot outside of the studio, I use a slower shutter in the studio even after a day.

April 19, 2007 12:29 PM  
Blogger Jeremy said...

fogg (and all other students):

If you are an authorized, full-time photography student, you can order PocketWizard II transceivers for $154 apiece at photo dealers with this form:

(Links to PDF)
http://www.centralcamera.com/xcart/StudentPrograms/MOC_PL_1_07.pdf

April 20, 2007 3:20 PM  
Anonymous Paul said...

Got these in the post today, and they work perfectly with my 430EX. I am very pleased and relieved that I can finally ditch my ST-E2!

April 23, 2007 9:30 AM  
Blogger Jeff Dickerson said...

I just got mine the other day and have tested them, but not really used them. In my testing, however, they did seem to work consistently with my Canon 430EX and a cheap Phoenix flash I got as part of a kit.

May 02, 2007 4:09 PM  
Anonymous dempsey said...

Those gadget-infinity triggers are now not only in V2 but also V2s specialy designed for troublesome flashes (here: http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/product.php?productid=16767&cat=274&page=1 )- like mine Olympus FL-36 (or Vivitar 285HV) which didn't work with V2. I ordered V2s triggers and they work pretty well with FL-36 and also work more reliable with Spedlight 430EZ (V2 when batteries on flash are weak won't trigger - V2s fire flash flawlessly even when flash batteries are nearly dead). Also they say that delivery can take up to 15days but mine got from Hongkong to Poland in 4days :-)

July 23, 2007 12:11 PM  
Blogger maxfx said...

Got few of them yesterday from this guys, works like a charm on Canon 430 and Vivitar 285, range is also not bad (tried up to 30m)

October 11, 2007 2:21 AM  
Blogger Colin said...

Does anyone know if the V2 works with a 550EX? It's not mentioned on their website, but how different can the 550 be from the 540 or 580, as far as this thing is concerned?

Colin

October 11, 2007 11:01 AM  
Anonymous Alex said...

Hi,

I've just got a Metz 58 unit (which is very powerful, and has scared a few of those it has been aimed at!!) for my little EOS 400d and I'd quite like to try using the Metz off-camera. The Gadget Infinity wireless kit sounds interesting enough for firing the Metz off camera.

Has anyone tried the GI V2s with my kind of set-up? Will it work?

Thanks,

Alex

PS I found Strobist some time ago and I am finding it a wonderful place to learn about flash photography, especially for a noob like me.

November 18, 2007 1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm very satisfied with my 16 channel remote. I purchased them from a chinese website because they are cheaper than gadget infinity or any ebay ones.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10065~r.28889870

November 27, 2007 12:56 PM  
Blogger hamish said...

In Answer to Alex abotu Metz 58: I do not have the Metz 58, but I have the Metz 28 AF-3C which is a very small dedicated flash for Canon, as well as the Canon 580 EXII. The Metz 28 will not fire even in manual mode with its center hotshoe pin shorted to ground as will a typical manual flash or even the Canon 580 EXII. The Metz seems to need to be on an EOS camera to flash. It therefore does not work with the V2S, although the Canon 580 EXII does. I don't know if the Metz 58 behaviour is similar.

January 27, 2008 3:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I own a Norman P 500M power supply and no longer have the documentation. I would like to know the trigger voltage of the shutter connection and whether a protective attachment is necessary for use with Nikon digital cameras.

Thanks in advance for any help.

rdw

February 09, 2008 11:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone tell me if the 4 channel trigger and receiver sold on the Deal Extreme Website is the V2s or is it an earlier version. ??

I cannot tell from the information shown on the website provides.

Folowing is the dealer website address.

http://www.dealextreme.com/

Looking at the unit ad does not reveal that these are the latest version, which is what I would like to have.

The ad description appears below:

PT-04 RF Wireless Flash Trigger with Remote (with Supports Multiple Flashs)

Thanks in advance.

Ron

February 13, 2008 12:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well hello everyone, not sure if this has bee talked about but I seem to see lots of people adding external antennas to the ebay trigger. I emailed Mr.Henry Chan at Gadget infinity about them ever adding an external and he had this to say.

"Yes, we have this idea in mind. We are now developing V3 of the trigger and we will definitely incorporate the idea of external antenna into the new version."

Don't know if they will up the price on the units that much or not but you can either buy them now and do the mod or just shell out some more money and but the V3 when it comes out. I know this blog is a little old but I thought I would let the readers know what I was told. The mod from what I have heard decreases misfires and has been increasing the transmitting length from 200-500% in some cases. Hope this helps someone.


-Rob

March 05, 2008 9:59 AM  
Blogger greg_smith_112 said...

E-bay triggers, Cactus V2s, or magic triggers. What ever you call them, they all have the same quality. BAD. I used them for a Canon 580 ex II and an old Canon 430 Ez flash. They work OK for basic set ups, but when I tried to adjust the flashes at different angles, the hotshoe wouldn't always be touch the flash and receiver correctly. After a while my trigger ended up dying..for no reason. rendering..the receivers useless. It is worth the money for the pocket wizards. I sucked it up and bought three, so I could trigger my two flashes with out problems.

I think that if it comes down to something that will help your photography immensely, get the PWs over some lens that promises optical quality. Getting the shot you want will better than slightly better optical quality. So I urge you, skip the ebay triggers. If you want a "temporary solution," then by all means go for them, but the eventually you'll wish you saved the $30 or $50 (for two receivers) and put them towards the PWs.

May 12, 2008 2:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I ordered 3, none of them work with my 285hv's. They work fine with my friends' flashes, just not mine. Anyone have this problem? Is there any way to fix it??

June 15, 2008 12:18 AM  

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