LumoPro LP632 'Shorty' Swivel
MPEX has been busy lately, what with the new 5-section compact stands and now this. The LP632 Umbrella Swivel will be a welcome addition to the gear bag of the space-conscious traveling shooter.Reader's Digest condensed version: Smaller, better lighting axis, less flexible and the shoe could be better. Some will like this better than the standard umbrella swivels, and some won't.
Find out if it is right for you -- and how to hack it to make it better -- after the jump.
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First off, it is significantly smaller than the standard shoe-mount flash umbrella swivels:
Here they are side by side. If you are packing tight and every cubic inch is at a premium, the new one is gonna save you some room.An added bennie of the small design is a fix for a problem that irks a lot of umbrella-mount shooters: The distance between the umbrella shaft (center of the light mod) and the flash head. This new swivel gets you a good inch closer, which minimizes the "off-center" quality of your light in the umbrella.
I am more familiar with the standard models, so I am partial to the big lever and smooth movement to tilt the flash/umbrella combo. But the new swivel incorporates a geared movement that bites well without a lot of torque on the lever. Which means you can get away with a smaller locking device. Which saves space.
The screw that holds the umbrella shaft is also smaller. Which actually might be a good thing for those who tend to crunch their shafts with too much torque. (There is a fix for that here.)
So, that said, what's not to like? I am irky about a couple of things. One of them depends on the flash you are using, and the other is fixable. So no big whup. Here they are.
First, the shoe is a little weird with newer Nikon (and other "pin-lock" flashes.) If you are shooting SB-24/25/26's or Vivitars, no biggie. But If your flash pin locks, like an SB-600 or -800, it does not sit very well.
There is a metal springy thing, which is a little weak and is, well, metal. So you need to tape it to kill the conductivity which would be right against your TTL contacts. And I also suggest sticking something under the spring (it is removable) to give it more pressure. I chose a wadded up rubber band.
In short, the shoe works great for older flashes but not as well for newer ones. And since it is not removable, you are locked into it. Not so the other swivels, which have shoes you can replace and/or mod with a drill and pliers to fit better.
The head on the new swivel is held by two rivets, not a screw. It is very secure, but it is a little wobbly on mine. Dunno if this is on all or just mine, but it is easily improved. A rubber band will easily get you nice and solid, so the rivet thing is a non-issue. Remember, you can still use the swivel to mount to 1/4x20 platforms (like a monopod) with the included brass insert with female threads for 3/8 and 1/4x20 mounts, so don't throw the insert away. Heck, that and a $0.99 Home Depot clamp and you have the makings of a poor man's Superclamp.
So, the choice is yours. But at least there is a choice.
Anyone else old enough to remember these? They (on the left -- the dinky one) were from the old Spiratone catalog (70's and 80's) and had a 1/4x20 mount on the bottom.Very cool.
Thanks for the pic, Malikmata52.
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25 Comments:
I got a couple of these off of eBay for about $10 (most of it shipping) but they didn't come with an insert.
FWIW, the head on mine is secure, no wobbly rivets.
I also don't have any problem locking on an SB-600. Besides the pin lock there are also two metal pieces that pinch on the sides when you flip the locking lever. Those seem to grip just fine on this swivel.
I have a couple of these (different models), as well as the standard sized ones. The little ones do pack well when space is tight. On one of mine, the umbrella shaft opening angles a little and on the other (looks like the one in your photos) the umbrella shaft opening is parallel to the flash shoe. And that little metal piece in the flash shoe tends to pop out once in a while, so it helps to tape it down while insulating it with electrical tape.
I prefer these when I don't use an umbrella and I use the larger brackets when an umbrella is part of the setup.
DH - Thanks for continuing to find and display the various alternatives when choosing gear.
- Ron
These would be great to hang off a ceiling using a Scissor Clamp
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Eventually the insulating tape on the springy-thing will either wear through or fall off. Then the pins on the flash will be shorted together. This can cause some flash units to self-destruct.
The best flash shoe I have found is made by Stroboframe. It is made of metal, but has enough clearance that it cannot short out the contacts. It also has a locking screw that works quite well.
Please don't tell me how much they charge for shipping one of these, I don't want to know!!
On my portable rigs I use mini ball heads originally intended for compact cameras. I either screw them to my on camera flach bracket or a stud pin which mounts in a standard grip head.
No Wobble at all here.
I have been using an umbrella/flash holder like this for two years now. I have not had any problems. The small umbrella tightening screw does the job well.
With that said, I cannot imagine anyone packing a few of those larger clamps from the pic in your camera bag. This is small enough to easily fit in to your shirt pocket.
I have removed that metal insert and taped the top where the contacts would be. I have n0t had a problem with the flash falling
You can find the same exact thing on Calumet and B&H's site, both for a few bucks cheaper than MPEX.
http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/MF6829/
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/88246-REG/SP_Systems_NPUBC_Umbrella_Flash_Clamp.html
I've been using this smaller clamp from Calumet. I used double sided tape under the metal pad to tighten up the flash slide in and to keep that darn metal plate from completely falling off (as it's only held by resistance).
I also use Paramount hot shoe to PC adaptors and they do not lock on to the clamp. Therefore they can easily just slide right out. I use a rubber band to secure them.
Yet another Calumet swivel user here. I ditched the metal plate, and it works fine for me! I was excited to see my swivel show up on strobist!
I'm sticking to my Manfrotto Lite-Tites, the best umbrella swivel as far as I can tell. Very expensive at 48 euros and not really compact, but oh so worth it. Do they sell these in America, I wonder?
Maybe I'll pick up one of those when I order my double-fold umbrella, I'm putting together a one-light kit that is even compacter than what I have now, and would be used to stick to the side of a Lowepro backpack.
Someone really should remake those spiratone adapters- oh so nice and tiny- and moving the umbrella to the side helps center it even more in the umbrella.
Moishe- you're remaking a lot of other products- how about that Spiratone swivel?
i've been using this for a while now, but only for non-umbrella situations. that's because the hole for the umbrella is parallel to the flash direction, and since the flash is about 5"-6" high, it throws the light off-center. i use a bogen one with an angled hole for my umbrella.
One caution -- the B&H version appears to be identical to the one I have, with a very shallow receiver on the bottom which does not mount well on most light stands.
The MPEX looks to have a deeper hole and will likely sit more securely on a stand.
I made a flash / speedlight base plate that I use on my mpex kit swivel, it's the bigger of the two swivels pictured above. It allows me to simply bungee on my flash and keep it almost in line with the umbrella shaft. Here's a link.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13057851@N02/1642563032/
Of course you could always bungee it to the light stand, but I always find it a pain, and it's not as much fun as making something!
man... MPEX has some good deals and I want to take advantage of them (especially with a strong Canadian dollar) but they never return my emails when I ask about shipping costs. boooo urns!
Would be nice if the head had a pc connection and would fire all those Pre 580 exll canon flashes.
http://www.addisongeary.com
This is the second and last time im buying from MPEX, they charged me 12$ for ground shipping for this product, online they will not let you select the shipping price and then they stick you with a crazy price
if B&H can ship to California for 5 or 7$ so can MPEX
This is the second and last time im buying from MPEX, they charged me 12$ for ground shipping for this product, online they will not let you select the shipping price and then they stick you with a crazy price
if B&H can ship to California for 5 or 7$ so can MPEX
Does anyone know where to buy those little thumb screws? I lost mine!
Erez -- Yeah, not providing shipping costs is not cool, however, you need to understand how shipping works.
The larger your business, the more shipping you do, the better the per-box shipping price you get from ALL the major US shipping companies (UPS, FedEx, DHL). That's how it works.
The higher the volume, the better the price, which is obviously something they can pass on to their customers as an incentive to buy there.
Something tells me MPEX ships a fraction of the number of packages that B&H does. :)
So, to say that if B&H can ship you a package for $7, that MPEX can too, is completely incorrect.
Wanna test it? Next time you buy something from B&H or Amazon, etc., figure out who they shipped it through, get the weight & dimensions off the label and plug them into that shipper's website from their warehouse's zip to yours. Compare what you were charged for shipping and what you're being quoted for the same exact box.
My main complaint about MPEX is their horrid site. A pain to navigate. No pictures on 90% of the products, no specs/details on 99%. I know they are a small-time shop, but they need to spend some serious time building out the details on their product listings.
I prefer the larger one in the photo which is referred to in the text as "the standard shoe-mount". But exactly which model is that one?
http://www.mpex.com/search.htm is the correct link to:
LumoPro LP632 Umbrella Swivel w/ Hot Shoe Adapter
Item #: LUM5040
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