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Friday, January 07, 2011

Sketchy iShoot Sniper Remote Claims 500m Range, Immunity From Copyright

UPDATE: 500m? Bzzzznt. More like 30m, if published reports are to be believed. And it can't hold a 1/250th sec sync, either. Surprise, right?


Need to place that speedlight five football fields away? No problem.

Or, at least no problem 90% of the time, according to the specs on the "iShoot Sniper" remote transceiver from the Chinese company McLovin' Photoloving.

Highlights include...

• 500m range, with "average hit rate" (whatever that means) of 90%
• Max sync speed of 1/500th, for you D40/D70s folks
• Control (on/off) of three flash groups
• Transceiver design (receiver or transmitter, switched)
• Hot shoe sync, and pass-thru
• Designed in a "perfect and classic way," (and looking amazingly similar to the PW Flex units, natch.)


When You Absolutely, Positively Have to Shut Down Every #$!@ Pacemaker in the #$!@ Room…

Alas, the units are not compatible with Flex units, nor are they TTL compatible. This is because they use 2.4Ghz frequencies. Over 500m. Which means the FCC is gonna just love them. And what's a few phantom garage door openings across town, compared with a 90% fire rate, amirite?

On top of that, you just know these guys are ethical and aboveboard because...

(wait for it...)



That conveniently dark photo, above, from their website, of multiple flashes synching at one time using the iSniper? Bogus.

I know that, because it was shot by yours truly while teaching at the Defense Information School in 2007.

Yo, obscure Chinese company: You do know all of those guys whose likenesses you just appropriated along with my photo are badass military types, right? I've half a mind to pass this along to Tom Sperduto (second from right) -- and believe me you do not want that.

I'd do it myself but I am both busy and woefully out of shape. Just sayin'.
__________

:: www.photoloving.com ::


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43 Comments:

Blogger blurrybackground said...

nothing says bad-ass like Cargo shorts and an aresnal of SB-800s. You should charter a plane A-Team them.

Thanks for the funny read!

January 07, 2011 10:49 AM  
Blogger Kyle said...

Speaking of us D70 folks... after doing some reading up on exactly how interline CCD's work, I discovered that if you tape off the TTL/Nikon pins for a "dumb" SC-17, you can get 1/8000th sync on the D70. Optical strobe from a SB-26 can also detect and fire in 1/8000th too... color me impressed.

January 07, 2011 11:35 AM  
Blogger Kishore said...

These triggers just keep getting better.

I started with ctr-301p, used it a couple of times and then the rf-602's came out so had to get them.

Now I have both the triggers and I don't use either of them just use the nikon cls if needed ( I shoot 1 picture a month ) hobbyist :)

If I can recall there are 2 types of phottix and atleast 2 types of yongnuo and many cowboy etc triggers, PW seems to be consistent and reliable even though expensive my next purchase will be those.

January 07, 2011 11:38 AM  
Blogger kbpride said...

You know those "hounds" you decided not to send after TechCrunch - Well, I think you've shown enough mercy Dave - Sick 'em! I mean c'mon, 2 counts of CR infringement within 2 weeks - You're like, the nicest guy in the world over here!

Go Strobist! We support cha!

January 07, 2011 11:39 AM  
OpenID damnuglyphotography said...

Christ...is this your week for gettin' ripped off, or what?!!

January 07, 2011 11:45 AM  
Blogger Jens said...

And 500m doesn't blow me out of my shoes - I am shure I can do that with my Skyports. Why? I had 100% with them on a similar distance.
Yes, Martin, our Ingenieur, said the cable car wire might have helped. But anyway, we were impressed - you can see it here: http://fotocooperation.blogspot.com/2009/11/elinchrom-el-skyport-test.html
Hey, and don't anybody steel our photos, we make Swiss Armyknives here in Switzerland - just saying.

January 07, 2011 11:53 AM  
Blogger Kevin Halliburton said...

Swiper no swiping! New company moto: Ishoot myself in foot all way from China with noncredible frequency!

January 07, 2011 11:55 AM  
Blogger S E S | PHOTOGRAPHY said...

Not even two days after some one else stole a photo of yours do you find another, amazing what a week eh!
strobist for life thanks for keeping us updated!

January 07, 2011 12:11 PM  
Blogger Mohamed said...

@Kyle: check this post about the D70 sync speed, he got 1/8000 using several methods. And he knew about the D70 from the strobist. :D

January 07, 2011 12:21 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

You'd think that if someone had a company making accessories for hot shoe flashes that you'd be the last person whose toes they'd want to step on. And the second misuse of one of your photos in the same week? There must be something in the water.

January 07, 2011 12:59 PM  
Blogger Michael said...

You did send them a cease and desist letter for them to promptly ignore I hope?

January 07, 2011 1:10 PM  
Blogger Phil said...

A 500m (1640 ft or 1/3 of a mile or 1.62038824 × 10-14 Parsecs) trigger... That is impressive.
What do you have to use to see it in frame... a 500 Bazillion mm zoom lens?
Wait, I know what we can use this for (90% of the time anyway). The military can rig up some SB800's 500m downrange with these so they can nuke out the sun for that perfect shot (pun intended) right as the bullet hits the target. Just sayin.

January 07, 2011 1:15 PM  
Blogger KatoKay said...

Thanks hysterical

January 07, 2011 1:44 PM  
Blogger WingedPower said...

Weird, was just reading about how micro-stocks were ripping off photographers yesterday, and before that, about you having TC "borrow" an image. Now this.

You should definitely go after them, if you haven't already. Some folks seeing that image might even think you endorse or use their product. :(

Being Asian, not really digging some of the slurs, but regarding many of the dishonest practices from China, I can understand the sentiments directed at said practices vs say towards a group of people, members of whom are against such business practices.

January 07, 2011 1:49 PM  
Blogger fotofred said...

Show the pic to Jack Bauer. He'll take care of the entire continent of Asia for you.

January 07, 2011 1:54 PM  
Blogger mhenry said...

I've become a big fan of watermarks. Not because they're 100% effective, but to at least make someone put effort into stealing my images.

The other solution is to produce mediocre photos. I find this solution more effective.

Between the two, my work never gets stolen.

January 07, 2011 2:00 PM  
Blogger mhenry said...

Hey Dave, can I use the image that was stolen, above, for a personal blog post?

PS - Sorry about the dup comment earlier, was a mis-fire.

January 07, 2011 2:06 PM  
Blogger David said...

@mhenry-

Yep. But please credit and link.

@Winged power-

Slurs, as in plural? I just saw the Moment it Click reference belatedly, and removed that. (Not cool.) But I did not see anything else.

January 07, 2011 2:21 PM  
OpenID kurtwerks said...

Wow. Not your week. Or does this happen more frequently than we hear about?

January 07, 2011 2:37 PM  
Blogger Mat Berube said...

Check this out... so I click on the Photoliving link above and get this wonderful security message :)


Client/Server Security Agent
Page Blocked

URL: http://www.photoloving.com/
Rating: Dangerous
Threat details:

Verified fraudulent page or threat source.


Yes, these guys are completely trustworthy ;)

January 07, 2011 2:55 PM  
Blogger Mat Berube said...

Ok, so check this out...I click on the photoliving link above and get this wonderful security warning from my security software:


Client/Server Security Agent
Page Blocked

URL: http://www.photoloving.com/
Rating: Dangerous
Threat details:

Verified fraudulent page or threat source.


But I'm sure we can trust their product ;)

January 07, 2011 2:56 PM  
Blogger Lisa*Asil said...

That sucks that they stole your photo! Sorry to hear that David.

January 07, 2011 4:02 PM  
Blogger SS Buchanan said...

Was "hot shot" sync their typo, or yours?

January 07, 2011 5:27 PM  
Blogger David said...

@ SS Buchanan-

Mine! (Fixed, thx.)

January 07, 2011 5:51 PM  
Blogger GregtheBunny said...

Considering your policy of "Apologize half-heartedly after the fact and I'll roll over, let you rub my belly and steal my photos for free" I'd steal from you too. You set a horrible precedent for the rest of us considering you're one of the internet's leading photography websites.

January 07, 2011 5:51 PM  
Blogger Interface said...

Maybe they are related to the online company advertising a Canon 5D II for $600. That sounds like a great deal, not.

January 07, 2011 7:19 PM  
Blogger deadmike said...

Don't forget the dishonest practices of "photognm" on the strobist group!
http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157625766875918/

January 07, 2011 7:48 PM  
Blogger David Sr. said...

So... "90%" thats 10% failure rate where I went to school.

January 07, 2011 8:04 PM  
Blogger EP-DESIGNS.COM said...

One problem here David is I think you've still just given their product more publicity than they could ever have hoped for! (any publicity is better than non for some).

January 07, 2011 8:14 PM  
Blogger David Griffin said...

David.... wtf.... they stole your image for there marketing? dude i'm The Prince of Cheap and I wont STEAL squat... They're product will fail.

January 07, 2011 9:52 PM  
Blogger Sharna said...

@David, I like the last part about being out of shape. LOL You crack me up. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us all. You truly are amazing.

Sharna

January 07, 2011 10:16 PM  
Blogger Phat Baby Photographer said...

The use of the 2.4Ghz spectrum is clearly a feature... It allows you to use your cordless phone as a PocketWizard MutliMax, with a 90% success rate of course.

January 07, 2011 11:39 PM  
Blogger jojo said...

how about a similarity to MPEX website too. just switch it to white.

January 08, 2011 8:06 AM  
Blogger Lighting Rumours said...

Why this criticism of the 2.4GHz frequency band? I've seen it successfully used in flash remotes by Paul C. Buff, Elinchrom, Yongnuo, MeiKe, Phottix, Pixel, Fomex, Seculine, Opteka, JYC, Cactus, Profoto and Hahnel. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't remember a single report of interference issues with any of them. It's always been the 433MHz Chinese triggers that cause problems. And of course there's the 350MHz ControlTL system which isn't without its issues.

January 08, 2011 9:13 AM  
Blogger Ian Worthington said...

Dodgy marketing practices aside, a problem which even large and otherwise respectable companies seem to have these days, this is an interesting rip-off.

Given the huge and well documented problems that PW have had, and seemingly continue to have, with their Flex series, something which could perform their basic ttl functions with reliability and good range but without the bulk and funky interface of the RPs, and the price tag of both, would be welcomed by me.

Not that I'd trust *these* guys to deliver that, but I *would* like to see some other options.

January 08, 2011 9:30 AM  
Blogger Parker said...

just for fun if you haven't ever used this...if you get bored and want to see where your photos are being used... Tineye.com is a reverse image search engine. i have no need for it but you pro's might.

January 09, 2011 3:32 AM  
Blogger Eric Duminil said...

Hi David!

You might not be in the mood to hear about another "new Chinese remote" after this bad experience, but I had the chance to use and review the Cactus V5 from Gadget Infinity during the last 3 weeks.

You can find an in-depth review there:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157625637331217/

I compared them to the V4 and the PW Plus II, did some crash tests and found some cool geeky stuff that might be of interest to the Strobist community.

You can read all my conclusions there, but the V5's have been as reliable as the PW's during all my tests and they play in a completely different league than the V4's.

Best regards,
Eric

January 09, 2011 10:49 AM  
Blogger Marlon A. said...

Hahaha! can't argue with the Chinese! :)

January 09, 2011 1:43 PM  
Blogger Ian Worthington said...

@Parker: I've seen a few of my own photos stolen. Tineye does not find them.

January 10, 2011 8:26 AM  
Blogger Toomas said...

In the crowded 2.4 GHz frequency the reliability up to 500m is questionable ? It is an ISM band shared by Wi-Fi, microwave owens, Bluetooth, remote controles whatever ?

January 11, 2011 5:15 PM  
Blogger Matthew said...

It's no accident...I'm willing to bet that they chose that photo specifically so that it would be mentioned on this blog. They probably got 100k hits on their website today, and even a tiny conversion rate would make a healthy week of sales.

It's the perfect combination of Sun Tzu and PT Barnum.

- Matthew

January 12, 2011 7:18 PM  
Blogger jonnydonut said...

WTF?!? don't buy from them. why would you they do that.

January 22, 2011 8:38 AM  
Blogger jonnydonut said...

wow. I will not be buying those, simply on principle.

January 22, 2011 8:40 AM  

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