Monday, March 27, 2006

Lighting 101: Balancing Flash and Ambient, Pt 1

More than maybe anything, the quality of light in a photo comes down to the lighting ratio. On one level, it creates the whole look of your photo. On another, your lighting ratio will likely be the key variable in determining whether your paper can reproduce the information in the shadows. It's all about the shadow detail - either you want it or you don't. And you want to make the call on what reproduces in the paper.

Balancing with ambient is the same process, whether you are lighting an interior portrait or fill flashing a headshot outside. Always think in terms of balance instead of fill. The concept is less limiting. And it will not predispose you to use the sun as your main light when the strobe might be the better choice in a given situation.

I am gonna make the assumption that not every one here owns a flash meter (I have one somewhere, but I no longer use it) and give an approach that will allow you to just eyeball your way to a good balance. Flash meters are great, but they are one more thing to carry around. And if you get used to lighting intuitively, you'll find you really do not need them.

Let's start with the example of balancing flash with ambient light in a room. In this case, we'll be using strobe as the main light, with ambient as fill.

Back in your Neanderthal days, you'd pop the flash on the camera (by now, the thought, "on-camera flash: bad" should have just run through your mind,) put the aperture on f/8 and set the shutter at the camera's highest synch speed.

Great depth of field. Horrid light.

We humanoids typically light to light our interiors to about 1/60th at f/4 at ASA 400. While this may be rapidly depleting our fossil fuels and sending our global climate spiraling out of control, it works out just peachy for photographers. It is a very flexible light level, and we'll use it to run through the idea of balancing strobe and ambient.

OK, so without strobe, you'd be shooting at 1/60th, f/4, ASA 400. And there are many times when you will happily bang away without strobe. Go to 1/125 - f/2.8 if you need the speed, or 1/30th - f/5.6 if you need depth of field. But this is also an easy position from which to create a nice, balanced ambient/strobe look. And we are all about that here.

So, we're going to balance to use your strobe as the main light source, with the ambient providing the fill. Assuming you have solved your florescent/daylight/tungsten color issues (which we will tackle after we learn balancing,) you now have two, color-consistent light sources: flash and ambient.

Let's say for the sake of argument that you are going to shoot some hotshot New York designer in his apartment filled with dead, stuffed animals, as in the above photo. You throw a shoe-mount flash onto a stand and bounce it up into the ceiling at a 45-degree angle to him. Why? Because you only have a couple of minutes before the guy becomes fatally bored with you. And you want something safe that will not give you too many things to worry about. (You'll be way past this soon.)

You park him on his couch just behind his genuine, stuffed-rhino-foot planter(!) and get ready to shoot him.

Bearing in mind your original ambient exposure was a 60th at f/4, you want to drop the ambient down, say, two stops. This will create your shadows - but with detail. Assuming your camera can synch at up to a 250th of a sec, you have several choices. You can stay at a 60th and go to f/8, for depth, but your flash will have to work a little harder to put out the extra light to support that aperture.

You can keep the aperture at f/4 and go to a 250th of a sec., which might be a good choice if you are powering with AA's and/or want faster recycle times for better chance at grabbing moments.

You could split the difference and go to 125th at f/5.6. Whatever. The idea is to build an ambient-light-only exposure that would result in an underexposure of 2 stops. That will be your lighting ratio. You can choose another ratio (and you should experiment) but 2 stops is a good starting point.

So, now that you have a 2-stop-underexposed ambient photo, you simply dial your strobe up or down on manual until he looks good well lit. If this sounds a little seat-of-the-pants, it is and it isn't.

One the one hand, lighting is a little like horseshoes and hand grenades. Close enough is close enough if it looks good. You will quickly start to learn to judge what your display (and histograms) are showing you. But the advantage to working this way is that it is fast and intuitive.

And this is not to say that you want to be lazy. Fast is important because you (a) frequently do not have a lot of time, and (b) you want to get to making well-lit photos of him before you have used up all of his good will waiting for you to get your light just right. Hey, he's got stuff to design, right? So lose the idea of the Minolta meter and tenths of f/stops and learn to quickly go with the flow.

You'll light more often and your photos will look much better.

Besides, as we'll talk about later, you'll quickly get the kinda-scary ability to set your flash's manual setting very close to where it needs to be on the first attempt. I find that I am rarely more than a stop off on my first guess now. It is a very quick, intuitive way of working that fits well with the variables you need to solve when shooting an assignment.

In our case, this lighting scheme can be completely set up in about three minutes with a little practice. And that is including 30 seconds to pop few test frames to adjust the strobe's main output to nail the exposure down.

Rewinding for a sec here, we are talking about using the flash on manual, and adjusting your output up or down (usually you can do this in 1/3 to 1/2 stops) to fine tune your flash exposure. Check your manuals for your particular flash to learn how to do this. The advantage is repeatability. You nail down the light, and it flashes the same way, every time through the shoot, for consistent and predictable results.

One more thing. If you want to change the lighting angle during the shoot without going through the process of balancing (just the 30 secs worth of test popping, that is) simply keep the flash at about the same distance from the subject as you adjust the angle. Cake.


Next: Balancing Flash Intensity With Ambient, Part 2

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54 Comments:

Blogger CHPhotographer said...

First, I LOVE THIS SITE!

Second, as a wedding photojournalist, "seat of the pants" shooting is my life. I go for emotion, expression and rarely check for exposures during the day. But I do have those formals to take and where I once disliked having to use "artificial" light, I now love the stuff--and I have David and this site to thank.

As for the previous post. This 101 section on balancing is the key to the entire game, the whole enchilada, or at least your basic beef enchilada with a little extra sauce on the side. Pardon the 60's slang but if you don't get what David's layin' down, then keep reading it until you do. It will come, I promise. Just keep at it and have faith in the wisdom and levity that David is imparting upon us. Are you still reading this? Stop and reread Pt1 again. This isn't brain surgery. If it was my malpractice insurance would be around six-figures a month.

Thanks David!

August 04, 2006 2:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would it make sence... calculate the exposure using your camera's reflectance meter and dial in to -2ev then adjust the flash accordingly? Might save guessing the normal lit room.

November 09, 2006 9:35 PM  
Anonymous dw said...

So, you calculate the exposure, drop it a couple of stops - but how do you initially determine what intensity you should fire your flash at? 1/1? Or is it a crapshoot?

November 24, 2006 4:06 PM  
Blogger SoniaK said...

It's a crapshoot.

Till you get some repeat experience under your belt.

January 06, 2007 11:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

great site
would be interesting to see the shot metered for ambient light only, and the shot metered for ambient -2EC (without the strobe firing) just for comparion

February 21, 2007 7:31 AM  
Anonymous m said...

This is one great site! I am confused. So, we mount the camera (on a tripod or just handheld) and then mount the flash on a stand. Then, do we automatically set it for 1/60 at f/4 or do we meter the room and then do the adjustments? Or does the flash just automatically make it sync to 1/60 at f/4 and we then manually adjust it? Thanks!!

April 03, 2007 2:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am struggling to understand using flash in social events mostly at nite indoors. I just came across this site and so far looks great. I have a fuji s2 and SB-28 flash light. I used to put the camera in P mode(auto) but results were not consistant. I want to learn real techniques of knowing how to calculate and adjust my camera/flash in quickly changing situations in social events.
so far i love this site. hope i could post more specific questions in the future and get answers. Thank you david.

April 15, 2007 1:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yesterday I had my girlfriend volunteer for some test shots. The sun was very hard and it was late afternoon so it had some direction (would be classified as hard light), which meant she had some very dark shadows on her face (mostly under her nose). The sun was hitting her 30 degrees from the left.

Now I used my new knowledge from strobist and unpacked my on-tripod flash and placed it on the ground. I put the bare flash on manual and placed it to her right. I now suspected that the flash would bring up the shadows, but instead I got a whole bunch of shadows with various light levels, ranging from darkness where neither the sun nor the flash had hit to very bright where both hit. Furthermore, other shadows where either the flash og the sun had hit. Both light sources being small giving strong defined shadows did not make her look very good and the light seemed very unnatural. I doubt it was a ratio problem, since the shadows are brighter where it actually hit - looks more like a fill-flash positioning problem, maybe combined with both key and fill light being small light sources?

Please help me before I start thinking that fill flash would be better on-camera as the author writes on the link below :-)
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1025&message=15781187
"Why side fill is EVIL"

Thanks for a great site
Henrik, Denmark

April 26, 2007 10:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In order to understand flash photography, I been reading "Flash, the most availble light" book by Quest C. Couch. I have understood few things but still there are many things that confuse me. I hope to get them aswered here.
I understand the relationship of f-stop and shutter speed for a given ISO/film speed for exposure. But when
flash is added to the equation things become confusing. From the above mentioned book, I have understood the ambient light exposure is controlled by shutter/f-stop for a given iso. so far no problem; and flash exposure depends on f-stop and flash power and distance of flash to subject.
here is my problem; In the book he used an example that lets assume ambient exposure is f/8 and shutter 1/60. To set the flash one stop less the ambient for fill he says...set f-5.6 on the flash and leave the f-8 and 1/60 on camera. I dont understand how setting flash to 5.6 will drop flash to one stop less that ambient exposre. I really think, I dont understand how Flash exposure depends on aperture. Help.
thank you

April 28, 2007 5:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By setting aperture on the flash, what does really happen? Is there a aperture openning on the flash unit thru which light is emmitted Or is it a way to correspond to the aperture set on the camera lens. What happens when camera and flash are both being used in manual mode and camera is not telling the flash what aperture is set on the lens.....can bothe apertures( cmaera and flash unit) be set at different values? If my basic quesions get answered here may be rest of the mystery will resolve for me. I hope some one here will help me out here. Thank you.

April 29, 2007 11:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i guess not!

April 30, 2007 1:54 AM  
Anonymous Thomas Pickard said...

Hey anonymous,

I don't know if this helps, but when I am thinking of lighting and ratios I nearly always think in terms of quantities of light. I then adjust f-stops and shutter speeds accordingly.

If I am reading your post correctly, the book you are reading has the camera set to an ambient exposure of f8 at 1/60 and what the author wants to do is to use the flash as a fill light on the scene Thinking in terms of quantities of light, the fill light is a light that has to provide less light than the ambient scene - otherwise it would blow it out the ambient exposure.

So if the flash was set to f11 what would happen?

The flash would over power the ambient light because the flash is producing too great a quantity of light when compared to the ambient exposure.

If you had the flash at f8 (the same as the camera setting of f8), then the scene will look similar, all things being equal).

If you had the flash at f5.6, the flash will produce less light than if it was set at f8, thus producing fill light and balancing with the ambient exposure for the scene.

The best way to get a handle on this is to practice it. Find a scene, determine the ambient exposure (try for the same specs as your book camera on f8 at 1.60, just bump the ISO up) and put a subject/object that could do with some fill.

Now set your flash and take four frames:

1. Without the flash

2. With the flash set to f11

3. With the flash set to f8

4. With the flash set to f5.6

When looking at the results, think in terms of quantity of light being put out by the flash. After all, what you are doing is balancing light sources.

A fill light set to f5.6, with a main light (or ambient light) set to f8 is a 1:2 ratio assuming the shutter speed remains constant. When the aperture is set to f8 you are getting twice as much light as when the aperture is set to f5.6. So by stopping down the flash (or fill light source) to f5.6, you are effectively halving the available light being produced by the flash, hence a 1:2 ratio.

If the camera was set to f8 and the flash to f4.0, you have 2 stops difference in exposure or a ratio of 1:4.

Just remember: think in terms of the quantity of light being put out when trying to balance light sources – whether that is ambient with fill or using two light sources with one light as a main light and the second light as a fill light.

I hope this helps. Thomas

May 14, 2007 3:49 AM  
Blogger Tom said...

Small question about "You can stay at a 60th and go to f/8, for depth, but your flash will have to work a little harder to put out the extra light to support that aperture.

You can keep the aperture at f/4 and go to a 250th of a sec., which might be a good choice if you are powering with AA's and/or want faster recycle times for better chance at grabbing moments"

Why would the flash have to work harder in the first situation? I figured you put the flash to a standard output & dial down for the ambient light to be underexposed. But why do you state that the flash would require more power in that situation? The required light is equal ? (at least, the light comming from the ambient is equal)

May 14, 2007 9:20 AM  
Anonymous Thomas Pickard said...

"When the aperture is set to f8 you are getting twice as much light as when the aperture is set to f5.6"

Did I really say that!

Actually, as I am sure many of you know, when the aperture is at f5.6 you are getting twice as much light as when the aperture is set to f8. Which in the case of our balancing the flash light with the ambient light, actually means we need less power output from the flash (set to f5.6) because there is actually more available light as the lens is opened up a stop.

May 15, 2007 2:09 AM  
Blogger vunzvraga said...

hi there.
i appologize, but when reading this article, i couldn't find the information about the flash setting in manual mode. Is it set to be in full power, half,.. some specific aperture setting on flash? can it be set to TTL mode and adjusted with over/under exposure settings?
thnx 4d answer

May 30, 2007 10:51 AM  
Blogger Sheryl said...

I just want to know that if my room (w/o strobe) does not look well at 1/60 @ f4 ( using my histogram and LCD on the camera as my judge) do i adjust these to better range before I add the strobe as main light. Thanks!

May 31, 2007 4:58 PM  
Blogger Matthew said...

wow i think i have just had my mind melted and reformed into saving me time and $$. I have always wanted to buy a light meter but now I am soo glad that I can use that several hundred $$ to buy more flashes. Thanks

July 23, 2007 11:28 PM  
Blogger Allen Ayres said...

Thank you for the explanation "quantities of light" Thomas, helps tremendously in conceptualizing the process. :)

July 25, 2007 4:30 PM  
Anonymous Kent Signorini said...

So, how do you "you simply dial your strobe up or down on manual" using the Vivitar 285HV flash that's part of the Strobist kits (at MPEX)?

September 25, 2007 9:12 AM  
Blogger Fotomeister said...

It originally threw me for a loop when David said "You can stay at a 60th and go to f/8, for depth, but your flash will have to work a little harder to put out the extra light to support that aperture." That changing only the aperture on camera you control how much of the flash effects the picture, shutter speed does not matter.
The thing to note, is that the flash adds its light to the scene in milliseconds, so fast that changing the shutter speed up or down won't matter because the flash has already done its work. The only way to reign in the flash is with the aperture as its set before the flash goes off.
Hope that helps.

December 08, 2007 11:44 AM  
Anonymous JBrennecke said...

If I'm understanding things correctly, the flash only uses ISO, shutter speed, and aperture to calculate a pre-determined output of light (some percentage between it's lowest percentage output and 100% output). Changing the aperture on the flash is only done to change the output quantity and in the case being discussed would essentially reduce the output equal to a 1-stop difference. That is why the camera can be set to a difference aperture/shutter speed setting than the flash.

Am I understanding this correctly?

December 16, 2007 1:10 PM  
Blogger Steve said...

It may help to understand how the flash works. The flash has a maximum amount of light that it can produce and it can be set (manually or automatically) to produce from 0 to 100% of this maximum. Modern flashes also have a sensor that measures the amount of light reflected back at the flash. When you "set the flash for f/4", you are telling the flash: "My aperture is set to f/4, and I've told you (via a flash setting) what my ISO is, so crank out enough light to give me a good exposure at f/4." The flash calculates how much light is needed, turns on the flash, measures the light coming back, and cuts off the flash when enough light has been received. Notice that this assumes that the flash is located near the camera with the flash sensor pointing in the same direction as the camera---so that it sees the same light as the camera. Once you start moving the flash around, pointing it in different directions , etc., then this approach doesn't really work any more. TTL flashes use the in-camera light meter instead of the flash sensor and typically use a short pre-flash to determine the required flash power. Then the camera controls the flash (setting its power output). This (in theory) allows you to move the flash around, as long as the camera and flash can communicate. But all this auto flash stuff is like shooting in your camera's program mode. You're letting the camera do all your thinking for you and it sometimes makes mistakes. If you are inexperienced or rushed, this may make sense, since the camera's (flash's) decision-making is probably better than yours. But at some point you'll get better and more reliable results if you learn to set things yourself. The problem with automatic flash modes is that you will make an adjustment (after a test exposure) and the camera may also make its own adjustment---one that you don't know about (and it doesn't always know what you've done). Chaos results. I was tearing my hair out trying to get systematic results from my Canon flash until I finally realized that I needed to put everything in manual and adjust things myself.

December 20, 2007 12:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing all of you who are having trouble need to remember is that when you are using manual flash is that the f stop controls the flash exposure. Shutter speed controls the ambient light exposure.

For example, if your ambient light exposure is 1/60 @ f/8 and the flash is too hot on your subject you would close down your f stop to f/11 or more until the flash exposure is just right.

Now once you have the correct f stop set you change the shutter speed to control how much ambient light there is in the photo. Say there are windows behind your subject with daylight coming through them and at 1/60 of a second they're too overexposed for your liking. In this case you would use a faster shutter speed which will reduce the the amount of ambient light coming through the windows which will result in them being less over exposed.

Another ambient light example is if there is tungsten or florescent lights in your scene. At 1/60 of a second you may see a yellow or green cast from the ambient tungsten or florescents. If you increase your shutter speed to say 1/125 or higher it will reduce and/or eliminate the color cast from the tungsten or florescent lights.

Keep this in mind before trying to use the technique suggested in this article.

December 27, 2007 9:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, great thread to learn from. One question - I have a SB-600 (bought it some time ago before I read this otherwise would have got a SB-24). I don't have aperture or ISO settings on the strobe, just a flash output setting going from M1/1-full output to M1/64 in which is the lowest output. Is there an easy way to guage where to start. Say my ambient no flash setting was 1/60 @ f5, ISO 200, is there an easy way of coming up with the initial flash output level setting?

February 27, 2008 3:27 PM  
Blogger Mike said...

Just foud your site and getting into lighting and this is a nice post Dave that kind of made it all make sense for me. But please tell me this designer guy that was the subject of the main photo was fictional???

March 04, 2008 4:48 AM  
Blogger LG said...

But what if I use film, and thus cannot chimp? Can I use a meter effectively?

May 22, 2008 10:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This particular article is probably one of the most important in all of the strobist's webpages, but it seems to be really lacking. The text description is overwhelming. Can you add some diagrams and illustrations?

Also, there is an unneccessary degree of humour in this article, and it distracts from what you are trying to say.

May 29, 2008 5:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi...love Strobist! anyway, wondering if someone can confirm my product choices: (having fired off ebay purchases already)
Camera: Rebel XT
ebay hot shoe adaptor with pc sync
ebay wireless remote
ebay umbrella - silver reflective

and then...Flash: should I go the Canon 580EX

or can I go the Nikon SB24 without any worries?
Thanks, Bec

June 04, 2008 8:48 AM  
Blogger Pepe said...

Urgent! to last anonymos on Jun 4!!!

You should never use a nikon flash in a canon body, diferent shoe configuration, you may burn your camera.

June 06, 2008 11:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully Anonymous of June 4th is planing to use his flash off camera with a sync cable or remote trigger.

A valid point, though.

Any ideas on how to work the f-stops on a 430EX?

June 26, 2008 7:58 AM  
Blogger Pepe said...

In response to: Any ideas on how to work the f-stops on a 430EX?

Using the ST-E2 you can control the f-stops. You also gain ETTL control with it. You will have a very nice sistem if you buy more canon EX series flashes.

July 02, 2008 9:03 PM  
Anonymous Dave said...

Great site...I have learned so much here...thanks! Anyway, my question is when using the flash in manual mode (off camera), what exactly does the zoom funtion do and how should I be using it and/or setting it? Again, thanks a bunch!

Dave

July 12, 2008 8:22 AM  
Blogger Pepe said...

Hi Dave:
Zoom function - off camera- is made to control the angle off the light, i.e. How far is your subject? How large do you want the light path (surface covered) And/or: how soft do you want the light? You can add more control using the rest off the controls in the flash for example: adjusting the +/- F stops in the flash controls.

You may experiment with the flash using all controls in manual Flash, Camera and finally Bridge or DPP so you open the pictures without auto control exposure – This last is my most common mistake when testing a flash-

Sorry for the Spanglish, I’m from Mexico City and haven’t type English often in a long time –last century-

July 12, 2008 12:55 PM  
Blogger Pepe said...

This liny may help a little:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082206canon430ex.asp

July 12, 2008 12:59 PM  
Anonymous Nagaraj Pudukotai said...

For users of Canon strobes, there is a great website http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash which probably is the single most comprehensive documentation on Canon flashes. In addition, it also helps you understand flash photography in general.

HTH

Nagaraj

July 20, 2008 11:00 PM  
Anonymous P:DEeK said...

This article really helps me balancing the light; flash & ambient. At 1st test, it really works & and make me smile. Thanks for the info.

for those who confuse, make sure you familiar with the basic things & keep reading till u get what David try to point out.

October 01, 2008 10:48 PM  
Anonymous Reginaldo said...

I agree with Fotomiester that the "flash will have to work harder" comment is wrong. Say the ambient exposure is a 60th at f/4 and assume the flash should be at f/4 (for now). If we drop the ambient down two stops (to make it a fill light) by going, say, to 60th and f/8, this does not affect the flash setting (!) which should still be at f/4 (or whatever we chose / find by trial and error). The flash will not have to work harder since the light the flash is to put out has not changed it is only the ambient light falling on the sensor that we have changed.

December 13, 2008 12:05 PM  
Blogger Steve said...

To Reginaldo:

Dropping to f/8 without changing anything will reduce the overall exposure by 2 stops. The idea is that if you increase the flash output by 2 stops, then the sensor will record the same light from the flash as before, but the ambient (which hasn't increased) will drop by 2 stops. So the ratio has changed.

So dropping to f/8 means that the flash will have to work 2 stops harder (i.e. have its output increased by 2 stops) if it is to put the same light on the sensor (through the smaller aperture).

December 13, 2008 11:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really good post where the grey cells had to work LOL

I have read all the comments, and I don't know if this will clarify the F stop and flash relations.

Try to take a picture in a completely black room with a flash.
(in the following ISO is kept out of the equation for simplification)
Lets say you are taking a picture at 1/250 f8 flash set at 1/4 of max output.

Now the picture comes out under exposed one stop. What can you do? OK try to take the picture at 1/125, that should give a stop more light. If you tried you will be disappointed, because it will look the same. Why? because within the 1/250 of a second you already got all the power that the flash will give in one shot. After maybe 1/5000-1/1000 of a second it will not deliver more power.
Now try to F/5.6 and that should give you the extra stops of light, right? Yes it will.
We could also have dialed the flash up to 1/2 power with the camera at F/8.0, at that would give the same exposure.
If there where only flash the aperture or flash power would be the only way to change the exposure.

Now we bring in the ambient light! Since this is a permanent light source, we can control that via both shutter speed and exposure, and we do that every day when we take pictures.

Now we have the ambient light at 1/60 F/4. We want to underexpose 2 stops so that gives us the options: 1/60 F/8, 1/125 F5.6 or 1/250 F4.0 (plus a ton of other but these are the ones I will look at)

Now forget the ambient light for a sec and think about flash in the dark. If for instance F/8 would take full flash output for a correct exposure, what would the other F stop do?
F/8 = Full power
F/5.6 = 1/2 Power
F/4 = 1/4 Power

So if we wanted to run the flash, at half power we should use F/5.6, and since we then wanted the ambient at 2 stops underexposed, we should shoot at 1/125 F/5.6
Lastly if we wanted to run the flash at 1/4 output with the ambient 2 stop underexposed it would be 1/250 F4.

Which one should be used? That again depends of wanted depth of field, and how long it is OK to wait for the flash to recycle.

Hope I didn't just muddy up the waters.

Frank

January 11, 2009 12:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

D'oh, that explains why my flash did nothing outdoors when I had stopped down to f/22 to reduce the ambient. I should've known better!

February 02, 2009 8:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the anonymous poster who spelled it out by advising to take the pics in a totally dark room with flash -- thank you! This completely makes sense now.

February 11, 2009 9:32 PM  
Blogger Ken Taylor said...

Okay, one more thing that I don't understand: When you're doing the metering for the room, does it matter that you're not spot-metering for the shadows? The reason I ask is because, depending on where your flash is going to hit, isn't it just going to white out the shadows anyway if you don't meter appropriately for them? Do you have to only control the flash's light to hit the subject and not effect the rest of the room? As well, if you stop down the aperture (and slow down the shutter appropriately), isn't that extra flash that you'll have to push out going to blank out the shadows too? I don't understand how, if you've got to dial up the flash power at any point, those original ambient shadows aren't going to get killed.

Thanks for the help!
ken

February 12, 2009 2:54 AM  
Blogger Steve said...

To Ken Taylor:

Remember that the light from the flash falls off as the square of the distance (basically, the surface area of a sphere goes as the square of the radius). So, for example, if the flash wall distance is twice the flash-subject distance, then the wall will get 1/4 the light. Unless the wall is close (or much more reflective than the subject), it will usually be dark(er).

You see this effect when trying to take group snapshots in a bar or restaurant. Standing at the end of a table, the close people will get blown out and the far people will be dark.

February 12, 2009 8:44 PM  
Blogger Migs said...

Friends:
I can't help but wonder where the flash meter gets introduced in all this sequence. It would certainly take the guesswork out of the game. Is it mentioned somewhere?
Thanks amigos! -Migs

June 08, 2009 1:12 PM  
Anonymous Jake Watrous said...

As a budding real estate photographer these pages, in particular this article, have helped me out a lot. The quality of my interior photos has jumped dramatically, all thanks to your suggestions.

I would love to take a photographic lighting course, but none of the community colleges in our area hold them.

To me, then, these pages have become a substitute course and, in my opinion, hold as much or more value. That you are giving this away to us all is amazing.

Thank you so much!

June 09, 2009 4:17 PM  
Blogger Migs said...

Jake:

Santa Fe Workshops offers these courses on lighting. A bit expensive, but in my opinion of the finest quality!

Migs

June 10, 2009 8:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

are you sure that is a rhino foot looks more like it came from a hippo to me

June 20, 2009 4:37 AM  
Blogger Dave said...

The technique as described is totally trial and error. It assumes you have at least some idea of how to use your digital camera's meter and that you have a flash with a manual mode.

It might help to think about a flash exposure as a kind of double exposure: the flash exposes your subject and the shutter exposes the background.

How do you determine how much flash power to use? Start at full power (or the smallest aperture the flash allows). If your subject is blown out, reduce the flash's output or use a larger aperture. After a few practice sessions you'll be able to judge how much flash power you need.

July 09, 2009 1:40 AM  
Blogger Boy Wonder said...

Firstly, thank you David for your great site. It has supercharged my lost passion for photography.

One thing that i'm curious about and something that doesn't seemed to have been answered in the comments:

When using my SB-24 in manual mode, do the ISO and F-stop settings ON THE FLASH make any difference? They don't seem to.

Thanks again.

October 22, 2009 5:45 AM  
Blogger Isabelle said...

Hi David,
Thanks a lot for your great site. As you say, "what we want is repeatability". That is exactly what I've been trying to achieve in order to work with a smooth workflow and concentrate on composition rather than technicalities. I have a question though. I understand the setting for the ambient light with 2 stops underexposure. Now it seems the settings on the flash only rely on trying, looking and adjusting from what your LCD screen shows. So how did the photographers manage this with film cameras before? There MUST be a setting recommended for ur flash without having to check every two shots whether your settings are correct? Can you please advise ? Thanks a million
Isabelle

October 23, 2009 12:28 AM  
Blogger Isabelle said...

Hi David,

Thanks a million for your great site. I still have a question! I understand the setting for the ambient light with 2 stops underexposure. Now it seems that the flash settings only rely on shooting, looking at your LCD screen and adjusting. How did the film photographers do in the past? There must be a more scientific way to set your flash once and for all for this or that condition isn't there? As you say "we want repeatability", and this is what I am trying to achieve without tearng all my hair off!!
Thanks for the advice.
Isabelle

October 23, 2009 12:31 AM  
Blogger Migs said...

Isabelle:

You can use a flash meter. That is the scientific way. My wife has both and she still eye-balls it. Eventually you learn to do it that way and forget the meter.

Migs

October 23, 2009 10:47 AM  
Blogger Irene Jones said...

I almost always shoot a combo of flash and ambient, but I've approached it a little different. I just started a blog that is pretty much dedicated to this type of technique and a few other design elements for the novice that stumbles by.
http://irenejonesphoto365.blogspot.com

Great article! Pouring through archives on this blog should be great fun.

November 04, 2009 2:31 PM  
Blogger Lulu said...

Hi,
I think I need outside help since I'm not sure why things turned out the way they did.
I was trying to balance ambient as fill with small, manual studio strobes acting as main light.
I had myself a correct exposure with the strobes at ISO100 and F5.6, 1/30s. I felt that the ambient was a bit too weak so I pushed ISO to 200 and then to 400 as I was working with moving people. I thought that the strobes would nuke the scene at ISO 400 but they didn't. Highlights were not affected as much as darks and midtones. I mean the ambient light filled just perfect, but the strobes did not seem to get that much stronger.
Why did it go this way?

December 02, 2009 6:18 PM  

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