What it Takes to Light a Car
I get a lot of upstream questions about lighting cars, and to be honest I am frequently at a loss what to say.To shoot a car effectively, you generally need huge soft boxes (or silks), many watt-seconds of light and a large, dedicated space. Take this photo, for instance, uploaded into the Strobist pool by Bryan Cook. It was lit by about $30,000.00 worth of Profoto gear, in a large studio designed exclusively for shooting automobiles.
Just kidding. He did it in a cramped garage with five speedlights.
Keep reading for a quick walk-thru, and how you could do something like this with just one speedlight.
__________
Here is the setup, minus two flashes. He used one on-camera (which traveled on-cam with this setup shot) and one in upper right that he could not get into the frame. You can see the light stand, tho.Sez Bryan:
" ... Five strobes: One camera left and up high, one camera right snooted on the wheel, one up high camera right toward the rear of the car, one behind the right rear of the car, and one on camera zoomed 200mm at the front fascia. ..."
He said would also have liked to have a couple extra speedlights to shoot under the car and to flick a little light on the side mirror. Yep, and I could also see a CTO'd interior light -- just a hint -- to give a smidge of defined info behind those tinted windows.
You can do all of that with just one flash by shooting multiple frames and combining layers. You want things to be very still, of course, but you can solve any slight camera movement problems with the "align layers" tool in Photoshop. Just shoot a tad loose as there will be a slight crop involved after the alignments.
When you get the layers aligned, I like to work with the work-in-progress on top and the incoming layer beneath. That way you can either choose "lighten" (lightest pixel wins), "screen" (like a classic, film-based multi-exposure) or simply erase to the new layer with a brush of any shape, size and/or opacity.
If you want to know any more, go find someone like Ben Willmore or Matt Kloskowski, who wrote the book on the layers stuff. Pathetically, I just start to get interested in it when it keeps me from having to buy more flashes.
For more auto inspiration (or perhaps a spasm of jealousy) check out Ken Brown's classic, all-in-one-frame shot of a vintage Mercedes Gullwing with just two bare SB-24's. Or you can go all bumper to bumper on it and join the Car Strobist group on Flickr.
__________
New to Strobist, or lighting? Start here.
Now shipping, in DVD box set or download: Lighting in Layers
Connect: Discussion Threads | Reader Photos | Twitter







48 Comments:
Is it just me or are there others that are soooo waiting for the 2 light setup part 2 post?
The photo may be lit by "inexpensive" SB's, but the car is another thing.
Lighting cars can be quite difficult. The biggest concern is hotspots from the strobes reflecting off the paintwork. Yes, using large softboxes or silks is a great but expensive way to handle this.
However, if you take the time to position your strobes so that the line of reflection is off of a non-reflective surface, such as a wheel arch, then you can get some decent result.
Example: This was shot with only 3 SB600s none of which were even at full power.
Nice work here. Thanks for posting this!
Stephen
Haha. As I kept getting email notifications of flickr users adding me as a contact I said to myself "WTF? Did a bunch of people just find that strobist article on me or something?"
Little did I know that yes, they had :). Thanks again for the nod, David.
nice! I shoot the occasional car for internet sales at my 9-5, and occasionally use a speedlight to liven up the photo/compensate for the hard shadows/challenging location I have to shoot at (usually in mid-day sun!). I now have multiple lights and may give this a try next time its raining and I can grab an open bay in the shop.. I just posted one to the strobist pool to check out...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jphoto76/3547438121/in/pool-strobist
Nice, you've inspired me, but I only have one SB-28.
But I have a hatchback :)
Beautiful.
Seriously, I don't think it's the best Strobist car Picture in a garage and not the best example for a low/no budget shoot. There are many more guys who can manage it better. Even me, 2 years ago, with one flash only and no idea what strobist was: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23678774@N04/2256271592/in/set-72157603883563032/
A subject near and dear to my heart. I can't believe I didn't realize there's a Car Strobist group until now.
BTW, if you read British car magazines like Evo and Car, you'll see a lot of strobed outdoor shots from great shooters like Mark Fagelson. A by-product of the often non-optimal British weather, I assume. It's quite inspirational.
@Kadus-
I am sorry about that. Normally I like to run these things by you before I post, but you didn't return my calls this time. I just thought you were upset with me or something.
Nice shot of the TT. Sorry about that hole in your hood ...
-DH
Love the shot! Great wideangle. Seeing as how I was polishing my Z last night in prep for Zdayz (look it up on YoutTube, web for great driving vids), this article could not have come at a better time.
Even though I have enough lights for a single frame, the concept of using one light and multiple frames is great. Definitely the "strobist" way if you only have one light.
Oh, no problem, just ask me next time...
And the hole is a real problem, rain is getting in all the time....
Beautiful shot and thanks for sharing the setup and the tips DH.
Kadus, two different shots - his and yours - for two different purposes. Play nice.
Heres an example of two and three light car shots I did a few months back:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gustafagraphics/sets/72157612534338782/
Hi there,
If you are in a dark room the flashpower is not as im portant because you can just set your camera to ISO400 or newer models even higher. So I got me a bunch of big (2.5mx1.2m) styrofoams to bounce of the SBs. You can cut them to your needs and it is a cheap way to imitate big light sources. Close in you can still achieve impressive f-stops
Cheers
M.Dobiey
Great to see a post about shooting cars, hot spots are a problem using strobes, but nothing a bit of creative cloning and painting cant fix.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ggcadc/3393704979/
no! don't erase the new layer...
Mask it. Mask it.
Layer masks will allow you to show/hide regions with a brush, but are completely undo-able (you'll be painting with white/black to show/hide areas)
I have to agree with David on the layers thing. Every time people start talking post-processing my brain starts to go numb. To crib a movie line....
Photoshop is like onions.
Donkey: It stinks?
Yes. No.
Donkey: Oh, they make you cry.
No.
Oh, you leave em out in the sun, they get all brown, start sproutin' little white hairs.
NO! Layers. Onions have layers. Photoshop has layers. Onions have layers. You get it? They both have layers!!!
[sighs]
Donkey: Oh, you both have layers. Oh.
You know, not everybody like onions....
I wish I had the time to learn that stuff. But I barely find the time to get any shooting in these days.
How 'bout parfaits? Everybody like parfaits!
I LOVE Shrek. And Eddie Murphy, while no longer funny as himself, magically becomes 18 again when you animate him.
Hey David...
I like this post, because it goes against what so many people say in the discussion forums, in saying that you have to have Profoto equipment to do everything.
I think the whole point of this blog is to learn how to get the most from your equipment.
It's really been irking me lately seeing post where people act like Alienbees and the lesser name brand flashes can't achieve the effects of the more expensive flash units.
I also recently did a strobist setup of a car. Info about the setup can be found under each photo, and later today I'm posting a setup shot.
Any comments are welcome, as it was my first attempt with a car.
A link to the set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fullspectrumphotography/sets/72157616981816573/
I think it is a great shot. Gives me ideas. My neighbor is finishing up a Chevelle SS Deluxe 300 that I want to photograph. Thanks for the post.
Speaking of working in multi-exposures and Photoshop layers I've been taking interior architectural lighting images that way. This post comment also applies to the house pictures post from last week.
If you set exposure for the whole frame your light fixture highlights are blown out and the shadows have no detail. There is also the challenge of balancing color with incandescent, fluorescent and speedlite sources in the shot. This all can be manipulated by only shooting one light source on at a time, white balanced to that source, and then bracketed. Make sure you keep your aperture constant and only change your shutter speed so your depth of field doesn't change.
You can then combine all those images using the "Merge to HDR" feature in Photoshop. You have a final image that is color balanced and captures all the highs and lows. It sounds like a lot of images but once your set up on a good tripod and remote shutter release it all goes pretty quick.
Hey David,
When we were at the Santa Clara workshop, didn't Ken say he lit some cars by walking around popping flashes manually with the camera in bulb mode? That sure would be a cheap, easy way in a dark garage…
Cheers,
Charlie Cello
(your bicycle commuter)
Thanks for the comments everyone. I'm going to shoot the car again tomorrow morning using some of the techniques I've seen talked about here. I'll post the photo soon afterward.
I shot this in a dimly lit parking garage with 3 strobes (one in front and 2 to the sides) all on full power to nuke what little ambient light there was
getting rid of the strobe reflection hot spots is just a quick and dirty clone tool away
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomfuller/3316951652/
Here's a link to a site of photographer, Eric Curry, who's been doing something similar [using flashlights]:
http://www.americanprideandpassion.com/
Check out the videos to see the process.
Who has a garage that clean?!?!
Funny this came up. I just finished doing this for a photo. I wasn't that great at aligning the layers but I did like the idea of blending method.
http://blog.drivetoescape.com/wp-content/uploads/blog.drivetoescape.com/2009/05/rear-branded.jpg
http://blog.drivetoescape.com/wp-content/uploads/blog.drivetoescape.com/2009/05/side-branded.jpg
all done with 1 SB600 on a monopod either with umbrella or bare zoomed.
I almost bit on the $30,000 in Profoto Gear. Till I saw the shadow underneath. If there is any info in that shadow make a virtual copy in lightroom and use the fill light on the copy to bring in some of the detail. Then highlight both copies, right-click and choose edit in->open as layers in photoshop. Photoshop opens two copies of the same RAW file and you can blend them together.
Great work avoiding highlights. Well seen.
I actually believed the line about $30k and dedicated studio. Now I'm laughing at own my noobness :D
Mark Shuern was right when he said
"BTW, if you read British car magazines .... you'll see a lot of strobed outdoor shots ..... A by-product of the often non-optimal British weather, I assume. It's quite inspirational."
We rarely have Calorinia spec sunsets and we're getting quite good at waterproofing Pocket Wizards!
You can also get large 4'x8' white foamcore pretty cheap and light those to give broad strokes of light where you need 'em.
Wow...
5 SB series...
OMG >.<
and the car itself... It's also another thing untouchable
My dented, 15-year old car from college isn't worth photographing, but this post does make me want to go to the parking lot of a car dealer late at night and go to camp.
As Charlie Cello said, one could light the car walking around popping flashes. That covers the "too few strobes" problem without using post processing or onions.
To cover the "too weak strobes" problem, one could use bulb mode again and pop the flashes however many times necessary to achieve the desired power.
Of course, the two ideas may be combined: walk around with a big soft light modifier of your choice and pop it several times in each position to achieve the desired power while the camera is on bulb mode.
Snif, If i keep looking at these great shots I will probably give my camera away and shot myseft.... :(
Yes a single flash can do the trick. I went through a technique in my book "the complete guide to HDR photograhpy" on using a single flash and merging the images in Photomatix. It's possible without layers and the results can be very good.
Almost all of my car photos involve strobist techniques. check out these randoms if you like.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewedwards/sets/72157607288087841/
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewedwards/sets/72157594176770015/
does anyone have an online tutorial on merging single flash images ? im having trouble finding anything :[
Man lighting a car is serious business.
Hey Merijj,
you asked for a tutorial on merging flash images, it can be done in Photomatix. The details are mostly in the setup on location and then using Exposure Blending. See the book "the complete guide to HDR Photography" for a lengthy discussion on Flash Merging.
Hi Strobists!
car photography is indeed possible with small flashes, if you use them with a little bit of knowhow. Have a look at
www.StefanBau.com
Nearly every pic you see there is shoot with small ligths. It´s not about power but how you use them. Get the right angle, bounce them, use them hard on the wheels and soft on the body (of the car :-)
And most important: find your own way!
Stefan
Here's a guy that has always done very well with strobes and cars. Since the first time I have seen his pictures on Flickr, I have always been envious. Recently, we featured some of his photography on JDM Origins Magazine.
If you are serious about car photography, I would suggest looking at his work and trying to take some tips from John Renna.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnrenna/
Beautiful shot!! Thanks for sharing the useful tips. I can't thank you enough.
Regards,
image masking
coming from a wedding photographer, this looked rad-as-hell... shadows or not under car. Now if we could just add a hot bride draped across the hood. J/K. But Kadus, I'm not diggin' your photo... too "overproduced" if you asked me. Maybe a bride IN the engine would do it. ?
Very interesting. I thought most of the 'lighting' techniques used in automotive photography were done in photoshop after the fact. I know that how Porche did it - blue screened backround, shadowless daylight. All effects were mapped onto the car after the fact.
Similar to my pic, but I only used 2 strobes:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28672635@N02/3401497682/
Nice shot which inspired me to make this one with one strobe and three 30 second exposures and some high speed MSW...Mobile Strobe Workout. 360 Spider...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32889289@N07/3647837919/
I get the same effect using just one flash light. It needs to be quite dark, setting shutter on 10-20 sec. and running around with the speedlight in hand flashing where it's needed.
Post a Comment
<< Home